It wasn't Kharkiv that was never surrounded, but it certainly was bombarded by artillery and rockets every day. And Ukrainian armed forces have launched what seems to be a very coordinated counteroffensive around Kharkiv but also pushing towards Izium which is south of Kharkiv and threatens the Donbas region.

And, Dave, just wanted to get your thoughts and reflections on what's going on up there and how important. This second is aside from outside from Kyiv and Northern Ukraine is now a second coordinated counteroffensive which a lot of people would argue that the counteroffensive around Kyiv and Sumy and those regions were actually a very well organized Russian retreat which obviously the Ukrainians pressured them out on all fronts.
But what's your read on the current counteroffensive in Kharkiv, Dave, and what's happened?

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